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By Lincs Patriot on Dec 10, 2013 | In Constitution & Laws
Here is an excellent informative comment regarding the life sentence handed down to Alexander "Marine A" Blackman by Lord Chief Justice Lord Thomas – that’s Roger John Laugharne Thomas, Baron Thomas of Cwmgiedd in the County of Powys. This is a must read for anyone serving in the British Armed Forces, both past and present. This is what the traitors within have done to us. Will you help join a Treason campaign to oust them?, Ed
MARINE BLACKMAN. (the 'Royal' now meaningless). A victim of political exploitation, corruption, duplicity and betrayal.
Without doubt our enemy's greatest weapon is incredulity. Tell Mr and Mrs Average that in 1972 the Queen abdicated and the monarchy was ended and that Parliament became an unlawful assembly following a covert political coup by the Conservative Party and they will not believe you, yet the evidence of this is to be seen everywhere.
Up to 1972 when the then Conservative government and the Queen surrendered the people's sovereignty and the supremacy of the Crown to the European Economic Community our armed forces personnel took an oath of allegiance to the Monarch, and through the Monarch to the British people, which made our soldiers accountable only to the Monarch and no one else. Parliament had nothing to do with it and for good reason. This arrangement insured that the Monarch, as official Governor of the nation and Commander in Chief of the people's Armed Forces, retained the essential power to dismiss and dissolve unlawful and despotic Parliaments.
The oath of allegiance our soldiers took not only commited them to protecting the Monarch, her heirs and successors and so the people from their enemies it also protected them when engaged in their duties by the limitation of the oath. An accusation against a soldier when he or she is on active service was also an accusation against the Monarch who, being the soldiers Commander in Chief was accountable for their actions.
This all changed in 1972 when, under the terms and conditions of the Treaty of Rome, the nation's sovereignty was ended along with the supremacy of the Crown and the monarchy as the Treaty contained no provisions for a constitutional monarchy. There can be no sovereign head of state in a nation that is no longer sovereign and no official governor of a nation that is no longer self governing.
Having abandoned recognition of constitutional constraint Parliament then presumed the position of the UK's official administration for the European government. With the termination of the supremacy of the Crown and the office of the monarch, Parliament also assumed control over our armed forces, using them as political mercenary forces engaged and acting under contracts of employment like any other worker or work force.
Our soldiers still take an oath of allegiance to the monarch but it is now meaningless as the constitutional authority of the office of the monarch has been ended, along with the sovereign authority of the British people who are now citizens of the EU and as such subordinate to the EU government according to the constraints and conditions of that citizenship.
With our soldier's oath of allegiance now meaningless the protection the oath afforded them has been removed, a point it seems that did not escape the notice of Chief Justice Lord Thomas, a fully compliant member of our now politicised judiciary. The outcome of this means that our armed forces personnel no longer have lawful protection when engaged in armed conflict and can therefore be held individually accountable by any group or nation anywhere in the world and at any time in their lives even many years after an alleged offence. Now that the defence of this country depends entirely on a voluntary force one can only view the handling of this particular unfortunate incident as a threat to that dependency occurring as it has at a time of irresponsible national defence cuts and growing discussions on the building of a European defence force.
Marine Blackman is a victim of his time. The state he bravely served is now a sham, a charade, justice, order and accountability abandoned. The once supreme spirit of our law is now subordinate to the letter of the law for reasons of political expediency. Those who presume to preside in high offices still wear the robes and carry the trappings of state, they even act out the traditional ceremonies but all is but meaningless pantomime. This once great nation now resembles a last year's Christmas tree on a June day, the false tinsel still sparkles but the tree beneath is dead.
Bob Lomas. The Magna Carta Society.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
By Lincs Patriot on Dec 6, 2013 | In Constitution & Laws
Letter addressed to Lord Mumby that should be read by any police officer, judge and politician (that hasn't already been corrupted), Ed:
Ref Judicial Authority
Whilst I do not intend to discuss the current case of the Italian woman
who was forced to have a caesarean section, and whose child is to be
taken by social services.
I do believe there is a far more important question to be answered here
as to just how far does the authority of Her Majesty’s Courts extend?
Do the courts in the normal execution of their office have the authority
in law and by law I refer to the common and constitutional laws of
England, have the authority to order what is in fact an assault
occasioning grievous bodily harm. Even when they are acting on medical
advice if the person concerned has not given consent to the procedure.
For example I have used my knowledge of genetics to form the opinion
that transplant surgery is a dangerous thing long term for the human
race, as it is not possible to understand the long term inherited
defects of the recipient of a transplanted organ should they breed a
defect which may take several generations to materialise, but which
never the less is attributable to the transplant surgery. In my case I
have taken a reasoned decision that under no circumstances will I accept
a transplanted organ. Would the courts acting on medical advice have the
right to order the hospital to give me a transplanted organ against my
Sir Edward Coke said “Parliament may pass a law which is repugnant
against common right and reason or impossible to perform. In which case
the common law will intercede and strike it down” I most respectfully
submit that most of Her Majesty’s subjects would feel that for the
courts to order any surgical procedure against the wishes of the person
concerned would be repugnant and against common right and reason, and
whilst it is possible to perform the operation it is contrary to English
common law principles to do so.
Chief Justice Stonor said “Law is that which is right” It cannot be
right to perform an operation on any body who does not wish it. Chief
Justice Beresford ruled “There is no such thing as a bad law for if it
is bad it is not law” Any Statute which authorises these things must I
believe be bad law by definition and therefore is not law, and Her
Majesty’s Judges should declare it to be bad and not law.
We also have the decision of some perfectly intelligent parents who
having looked at the subject in detail decide in a perfectly rational
manor not to vaccinate their children, yet we hear that Social services
are threatening these parents with the loss of their children if they do
not vaccinate them, this to my simple constables mind is blackmail.
It is I believe quite common to force Downs’s syndrome young women to
undergo forced sterilisation, on the basis that it is better for them
not to have children who may also be Down’s or who may also for there is
no way of knowing which gamete would be fertilised and should that
gamete only have the normal amount of chromosomes the resultant child
would be normal. Or who the professionals believe could not look after a
child. Add to that that there are different levels of mental ability in
sufferers of Down’s syndrome I have met Down’s people who I believe are
mentally of a higher mental ability than some supposedly normal people.
So how far are the courts allowed to go before we say enough is enough
and point out that being a Judge sitting in his court does not have
authority to go beyond the limitations placed upon Her Majesty by the
Common and Constitutional Laws of England. For both Parliament and the
Royal Courts operate in Her Majesty’s name and may not go further in
making or applying law than Her Majesty who is restricted by the ancient
restrictions placed upon the Kings and Queens of England. By our Common
Law, from which the authority of the King stems.
I would dearly love to debate these matters with you or preferably with
every High Court Judge individually or all at once. Bearing in mind I do
not wish to discuss particular cases but general principles. Both Sir
Edward Coke and Sir Mathew Hale said the problem is our politicians do
not understand the Common Law or the Constitution and they make bad law,
which does not matter because the Judges can rectify that, but when our
Judges do not understand the common and constitutional law it is for the
Law Lords to rectify it, but when our Law Lords do not understand the
Law there is no one to rectify it and bad law is accepted. There was the
best part of 100 years between these two great Judges now 300 years
further on we must ask ourselves do any of our Judges understand the
English Common and Constitutional Law?
It would appear they do not! Or they would not allow the 2002 Police
Reform Act which attempts to repeal by implied repeal the Bill of Rights
1689 when it allows the IPCC to grant a dispensation to the police not
to investigate a police officer against whom allegations of serious
crime have been made. Purely because the police themselves claim the
allegations are vexatious but without ever producing a single shred of
evidence to support this assertion. It also over turns the ruling of
Chief Justice Vaughn of the Common Pleas in the case of Thomas vs.
Sorrel 1674 where he ruled on the dispensing power of the King. Add to
this the removal of the words Our Sovereign Lady from the police oath of
attestation, an act of high treason contrary to the 1848 Treason Felony
Act by removing Her Majesty’s Style and Honour as a fully Sovereign
Queen. As well as imagining Her Majesty’s death as a fully Sovereign
Queen which is high treason contrary to the 1351 Treason Act.
I have today been told that Lincolnshire Police are working en masse at pulling motorists over at upto 10 vehicles at a time in and around Lincoln and Boston with the aim of catching people who are over the "legal" drink drive limit. This is apparantly to stop people driving the morning after having a drink the previous night and is being done in the run up to Christmas.
Now at first thought to an unsuspecting public (and some of the police officers too) this might sound like a good idea helping to keep us all safe from those who had a tipple the night before and preventing accidents. However, to those who understand what is really going on in the world and have a deeply suspicious nature (like Mr Ed!) they suspect that there is ofcourse an agenda to all of this and it most certainly isn't about keeping the public safe - quite the opposite actually!
The fact that the local "police" are now working in ever larger numbers together and bringing large numbers of people into a holding area together for checking could easily be construed as conditioning for the police state. That is to continue the ever increasing amount of police presence and clamping down on individuals rights, just like we have exposed here so many times before like searching people who have done nothing wrong before allowing them onto public transport etc etc.
We have warned about the EU fascist dictatorship, the scapegoating of immigrants/the alleged war on terror and the Police state growing up all around us in modern Britain. This is just another case of Corpus Juris - guilty until proved innocent. This is becoming the norm and people do not recognise it yet. As an aside, I saw an anti-fracking demonstration earlier today on Russia Today from Britain (nr Manchester I think) and one banner read "Police - who are you protecting?" Will decent Policemen and women do the right thing and question their superiors or will they continue to clamp down on individuals freedoms using the "law"? (Note, the Magna Carta was about preserving our freedoms from despots like we now have in power!)
If people do not learn the mistakes from history they are doomed to allow this escalation of the police state to continue and repeat the misery that will certainly follow.
By the way, if anyone takes offence because they have lost a loved one to a drink driver, then yes I agree the person who committed the crime/accident should be punished but that DOES NOT mean that everyone needs to suffer a clampdown. There are far bigger things going on here than preventing a few incidents - read between the lines, become suspicious as you need to be!
Welcome to your good old friendly post office. This should not surprise regular viewers of this website. Tell everyone.
Question for post office staff and those implementing this system: Are you going to be a patriot and refuse to take part in this, is your job more important than peoples freedom or are you going to follow orders and be a useful idiot?
First they came for the immigrants and I did nothing for I wasn't an immigrant...... YOU all need to resist this with immigrants because it will be you in the not too distant future (gee do you not think that immigrants and the alleged war on terror has all been deliberate?). Will you choose freedom or slavery, it is your choice. Likewise, will you choose your controlled political party over your nation? You all need to set up resistance to tyranny groups all over the country and stop messing about with their sham democracy- RESIST!
A working class king in Australia! How good does that sound?
Hopefully this family don't all get on a plane together as accidents do tend to happen from time to time, don't they?
Thanks to the patriot who passed this info on from the Guido Fawkes website:
A note for slanderers, libellers, satirists, drunks, angry and bitter critics, parties with an urgent need for anti-social expression.
The Draft Defamation Bill was in committee last night, with regard to website operators.
The Government aren't seeking to make website operators liable for comments posted under on-line articles.
That's good for Guido, or we'd be in jail by now. There's no telling where some of you would be.
However, readers wanting to complain will be able to make representations, and the offending comments can be taken down without penalty by the operator.
Or the operator may choose to contact the poster and ask him or her to take them down. The poster may decide to stand by those comments and the matter would go through the courts in the usual way.
The website owner, as a distributor, would not be liable, as long as the processes, the procedures, the regulatory catechisms are adhered to.
Not much news here, then. And that's good news.
Basically, they are clamping down further on the free press, namely us in the alternative media who are exposing the charlatans allegedly in charge! Ed
By Lincs Patriot on Nov 15, 2013 | In National
I received this from a patriot I know which you should read, Ed:
Talking to a client today, who had just lost her father at the age of 49. He had Rheumatoid Arthritis, she (correctly) reckoned it was the drugs that killed him not the RA. I will never forget the attitude of my RA consultant who looked to be in total dismay when I told him I had come off the Methotrexate of my own accord. Methotrexate is a chemotherapy drug designed to suppress the immune system & prescribed to just about everyone who has an aggressive form of RA. Being me, I researched it in detail sometime before I knew you and worked out for myself that it would have to shorten my life expectancy as it was basically poison, not to mention the fact that it made me feel like death warmed up. At the time, I was using crutches to move around and struggled to even get in and out of the bath. OK, I'm not exactly fighting fit today, but I can function well enough and have far less pain now than when I was on the medication. A healthy diet, basic anti-inflammatories and managing the physical aspect, makes all the difference, ie I keep mobile, but I don't do anything stupid like lifting a heavy item, better to bury my pride.
The scary thing is, not one health care professional told me about the dangers of MTX. If you know anyone with RA, tell them to email me, possibly I could save at least one life who knows!
I should have mentioned that although I can see now I had undiagnosed RA for many years, it was not affecting my lifestyle and the symptoms were very mild. It wasn't until I had the flu jab that the symptoms flared up within 5 to 6 weeks and put me in hospital.
You can email me at email@example.com and I will forward your email on. It should be noted that many people have developed rheumatoid arthritis since having the swine flu vaccine. For me this is just another euthanasia method used by the elite chums - i.e they give you the vaccine causing the symptoms and then give you the (final?) solution with a chemotherapy drug that kills you off early. Don't worry though we are all living longer!!! 49 is no age at all. They are clever at their killing methods but some recognise the malthusian patterns. Keep spreading the news far and wide, Ed
PS: My advice as always is do your own research like this chap did and NEVER rely on a doctor or consultant who follow the evil World Health Organisations agenda, afterall they get paid for each vaccine they give you. Follow the money and big pharma.
By Lincs Patriot on Nov 14, 2013 | In Common Purpose
This website has posted many articles relating to the insidious Common Purpose charity in the past. Unfortunately I have not had time to publish all the documentation in my possession that shows it being rife in Lincolnshire, but fear not I will get round to it and copies have been made and distributed to others for safe keeping
By Brian Gerrish
It recruits and trains ‘leaders’ to be loyal to the directives of Common Purpose and the EU, instead of to their own departments, which they then undermine or subvert, the NHS being an example.
Common Purpose is identifying leaders in all levels of our government to assume power when our nation is replaced by the European Union, in what they call “the post democratic society.” They are learning to rule without democracy, and will bring the EU police state home to every one of us.
It is a pro EU political cult, which uses cult-training methods within a classy leadership framework. They are very dangerous, and those who have really been influenced by the training (it uses Delphi techniques), can be manipulated to follow the NEW agenda. CP leaders are tasked to promote their agenda over and above that person’s organisations. They are creating the NEW society in which Common Purpose leaders will be in control. Training causes personality changes in some people, which can lead to depression and illness.
Common Purpose is also the glue that enables fraud to be committed across these government departments to reward pro European local politicians. Corrupt deals are enabled that put property or cash into their pockets by embezzling public assets.
Law and Constitution
It has members in the NHS, BBC, the police, the legal profession, the church, many of Britain’s 8,500 quangos, local councils, schools, social services, the Civil Service, government ministries, Parliament, and it controls many RDA’s (Regional Development Agencies).
Cressida Dick is the Common Purpose senior police officer who authorised the ‘Shoot to kill’ policy without reference to Parliament, the law or the British Constitution. Jean de Menezes was one of the innocents who died as a result. Her shoot to kill policy still stands today.
Common Purpose trained Janet Paraskeva, the Law Society’s Chief Executive Officer. Surprising numbers of lawyers are CP members. It is no coincidence that justice is more expensive, more flawed and more corrupt. And it no surprise the courts refused to uphold the law, when a challenge was made to the signing of the six EU treaties, which illegally abolish Britain’s sovereignty.
Common Purpose is backed by the Deputy Prime Minister (ODPM), Head of the Civil Service Commission is a member and its Chief Executive is Julia Middleton.
In Leadership in a Changing World, published by Palgrave Macmillan, with its 163 pages, under a dark cover featuring a maze, the author Julia Middleton, outlines her brand of leadership training, which is sold by her ‘charity’ for millions of pounds, most of it our taxes, to over 25,000 people largely in the public sector.
Her leadership is ‘one that can cope in unfamiliar territory’, ‘where leaders are taken beyond the closed doors of their own organisations,’ into, of course, Common Purpose meetings – behind closed doors. In CP terms, ‘beyond authority’ means to abuse the authority of your paid employment for control and private gain. “Beyond authority” is Mrs Middleton’s phrase for dissolving democracy, and she’s doing it on a vast scale.
We quickly learn that Mrs Middleton’s charity is very different from others. Middleton seems obsessed with power, wealth and money, be it with the Deutsche Bank, Morgan Stanley, UBS, Natwest, Lehman Brothers, The Young Foundation, Unilever, KPMG, The Financial Times, Imperial Tobacco, the Chairman of the Law Society, Chief Constables, and a host of named elitist individuals. As Sir Derek Higgs, Chairman, Alliance and Leicester plc says on the rear cover – “Julia Middleton has a contact list to die for”.
In his Foreword, Sir David Bell, Chair of the Financial Times, attempts to explain Middleton and her work in terms of leaf people, forest people, alchemy, and magic. He praises Charles Darwin.
The undertone is certainly humanist, and with an encroaching darkness, it directs people to undertake continual change, thus destroying the old, without specifying anything to change to. Confusion and inactivity results. CP has used this well established Frankfurt School subversion technique on the NHS (National Health Service), which it has been paralysed, and also on the Conservative Party.
In the book itself, the word ‘’conspiracy’ is used repeatedly to describe the process of Common Purpose networking, and the reader is even asked if the ‘dark arts’ apply. There is no Christian charity in this book, and with its wealthy clients, CP’s charity status should be revoked immediately.
Educated overseas in the USA and France, Middleton is an international educational product; she refers to a time spent in Manhattan, omitting to mention the fact that she attended an elitist French school with the head of the United Nations, nor her time at the London School of Economics, the Industrial Society, or the Marxist, think-tank DEMOS.
She admits to domestic disorder, her children seem to have been largely left alone, and she does not mention her husband Rupert Middleton, a Robert Maxwell man, once Group Director of Manufacturing for Trinity Mirror Newspaper Group.
Concealing the purpose
Little of Middleton’s text is her own. Her book comprises of a myriad of linked quotes from the wealthy, powerful, political elite on the subject of ‘leadership’. She is very impressed by Blair, Clinton, and German bankers.
Whilst German bankers are great, the British are warlike, cold, and they are the worst at (human) feedback. She adds that the English are people who ‘like to take canned food with them’ to Europe. White males appear suspect.
Karl Marx, and the Chinese general and authority on the philosophy of warfare, Sun-Tzu, are quoted. She has been given sound advice by a former Chef de Cabinet of the European Commission. The book leaves you with the impression that Mrs Middleton is a communist with a hatred of all things British. That wouldn’t matter if Common Purpose’s inner sanctum didn’t control £170 billion, or one quarter, of Britain’s budget through the NHS and her 8,000 quangos.
Armed with a frothy political righteousness, and excited by the use of a ‘fifth column’ to drive forward change through the House of Lords, Mrs Middleton is keen to blur and break down boundaries between individuals, organisations, the public and private sectors, who then will need to ‘break out of their organisational silos,’ to form partnerships and act. The language is reminiscent of a form of Gramscian soft fascism, where western democracies can be overturned by undermining traditional beliefs and values, and the slow secretive merging of the public and private sectors into a state controlled partnership.
Incitement to criminality
In reality operating outside authority for the police, and many others, means operating illegally and without accountability. This does not bother Middleton however, who urges Common Purpose leaders to create their own legitimacy. She quotes organisations as Stranger 1 and Stranger 2. But why are these strangers so shy? Are they huge financial contributors, do they have political agendas?
If readers sense something sinister at work, I agree. Middleton does not really explain how she was initially able to raise £500,000 in a few months, and continue to receive huge donations from big business. She does not tell the reader how her Advisory Boards in each City select members for the Common Purpose elite. We know about half are selected for the inner sanctum – those who can be compromised, those who can be bribed with big salaries in quango or non jobs, and those who will lie to conceal CP activities. But she does give a hint as to how the chosen are classified – ‘Suns’ (people of established power and influence), as ‘Stars’ (those of rapid but unpredictable rise to power and influence), and as ‘Moons’ (those individuals of diminishing power). Those who will not help Common Purpose, or who challenge it, are called ‘Black Holes’.
The ‘Black Holes’ who oppose are to be dealt with. Techniques include shaming, embarrassing, harassing, wearing them down, ignoring and bulldozing.
The picture of her selection techniques is not good, but it is actually much worse in practice- neither is the reference to ‘borrowing great East German phrases ‘ such as from Hans Recker’s Board Member of Deutsche Bundesbank, phrases from Karl Marx such as ‘useful idiots’ and ‘expert idiots’. You can’t help comparing her views to those of German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
Mrs Middleton has risen to select people for senior posts in Britain’s public sector. She says she’s independent – but is clearly working for the hand-over of power to the EU, which is organised from the old Office of the Deputy Prime Minister.
Has this book inspired me? Most certainly – to warn all those I can to watch out for the ‘fifth column’ that is Middleton’s elitist Common Purpose. a criminal organisation with a subversive, corrupt and deeply fraudulent agenda. If not stopped, you won’t be able to work in government without first joining Common Purpose, the EU’s Communist Party, and it is now close to controlling Britain’s local government and our justice system.
This article was printed in the October edition of The UK Column.
Brian is a former British Naval Officer, lives in England, he encountered an insidious, hidden force during the course of his business activities in the community of Plymouth. Threats and intimidation forced him and his colleague to investigate the source of the problem. After painstaking research and thorough investigation over several years, they uncovered Common Purpose, a political cult, led from the highest levels of government, designed to remove the existing democracy and install selected elitist leaders for the new post democratic society. This organisation is insidious and is pervasively working against the interests of ordinary people, not only in Britain but the Commonwealth, USA and Europe. As a result, Brian and his team of volunteers have formed an organisation New Battle for Britain Group. They and their colleagues throughout Britain, are strongly committed to exposing the evil political corruption funded by the EU that is undermining and subverting our British democracy and causing the destruction of our ancient Constitution
If you suspect Common Purpose is active in your town, city, organisation, or see a pattern of incredibly bad decisions, money being wasted, notice bullying, fraud or threats; note the names of those involved (we’ve tracked down over a thousand), then please contact us. Please help by publishing the truth about Common Purpose as widely as you can. If you have friends overseas in Commonwealth countries and the USA, tell them.
PL2 3DU By phone: 01752 478050
By Lincs Patriot on Nov 12, 2013 | In National
This one from one of the bravest patriots I have ever met, Ed:
'Poppy Day' PURPORTS to be 'in memory of those who died for their country'.
In truth it is a celebration of war.
From the start of World War II I was one of those gullible enough to think that to 'Preserve Freedom', we must kill Germans, then Italians & then Japanese. (Never forget, Hitler had no wish to fight Britain. It was we British who declared war against him).
At the age of 17, anxious to 'Do My Bit', I joined the Royal Navy, & very soon played my very small part in killing 1,867 of the bravest men in the world, the crew of the German battle-cruiser Scharnhorst.
UNTIL the age of 70, though I grieved for those we had killed, I felt we had been fighting in a worthy cause.
UNTIL the age of 70 I was one of those who marched past the Cenotaph with sombre face & glistening eye.
In paragraph 29 of his Judgment of 23rd January 2013, Lord Chief Justice Lord Igor Judge said of me, "The defendant is brimful of his own ideas. He is utterly convinced that they are right. Nothing will change his views".
That was one of the many dogmatic but completely untrue statements he made about me.
FROM the age of 70, I DID change my views, dramatically, as I began to learn the truth about the nation of which I was so proud for so long. And about the real causes of these futile wars.
Particularly nauseating was a BBC Radio programme last Friday, 'celebrating' the Dam-busters raid. Let none doubt my respect for those aircrews (my own cousin was on Lancasters, & took part in similar raids), but they, like me, were misguided.
Yes, the BBC did make brief mention of the many on the ground who had been killed, INCLUDING UKRANIANS DOING FORCED LABOUR, but soon reverted to glorification of the raid, & of war.
My eyes still glisten as I think of all who died in such conflicts, including those who, as brainwashed as I was, are currently doing so in Afghanistan. A terrible shame, when they have so much more information available to them than we did.